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1800s or early-1900s Austrian or Czech tea sets

I inherited these tea sets from my grandparents, who I believe inherited them from previous generations. My grandparents grew up in Vienna, Austria, and their ancestors were from various places in Moravia (now part of the Czech Republic). My grandparents were born in the early 1900s. Both appear to be handpainted; each cup is different. Unfortunately, the green tea set has no identifying marks. (Note that the backside does not have flowers.) The red-bird tea set has a mark on the bottom of the saucers, as shown. Alas, I don't know any more than this. Any advice on vintage/history/value would be appreciated!

Category: 
Ceramics and Porcelains
Medium: 
China or porcelain
Distinguishing marks: 
Franz Walte or Walter, Carlsbad?, PorzellanMaler
Date Period: 
1800s?
Size and dimensions of this item: 
Tea set
For Sale?: 
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PS - For the green set, the pitcher is 7.25" h x 7" wide including the handle x 4" diameter (excluding the handle), a saucer is 5.75" diameter, and the cup is 3" high and 3" diameter (excluding the handle).

For the red-bird set, the saucer is 4.25" diameter and the cup is 2.5" high and 2.25" diameter.

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Franz Walter Carlsbad and porzellan malerei are what’s written on your china. Porcelain painting is the English translation of the German porzellan malerei.
Here’s a Franz Walter Carlsbad set I found on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/B8beI43HkCW/
There’s some info on JustAnswers https://www.justanswer.com/antiques/9mwpz-pieces-say-franz-walter-carlsb... I’m not sure if this info will be of any help, the most pertinent might be “Franz Walter Carlsbad, a retailer and exporter from Bohemia that used this mark from 1890 to 1940.”
I found this on Kovels “Carlsbad or Karlsbad is a mark used on china made by several factories in Germany, Austria, and Bavaria. Many pieces were exported to the United States.”
The one here https://picclick.co.uk/Antique-FRANZ-WALTER-Carlsbad-Porcelain-Teapot-Ro... sold for about the equivalent of $200.
Not much info but these are also here on Instappraisal https://instappraisal.com/appraisal/franz-walter-carlsbad-cream-and-suga...
That’s all I’ve found.

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It seems the red tea set is is Bohemian and, based on that very similar example, from the early 1900s.

Re the *green* tea set, could these plausibly be Paris Porcelain? If that's the case, would that mean second quarter of the 1800s?

Thanks again!

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