Victorian Silver Goblet

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Posted by juliamason
16 years ago
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Description Very ornate, decorated with animals fruit and faces.Gilded accents and cup stem.Also gilded inside.Gilding slightly worn in places.It has an oval plaque on the side with a Royal coat of arms and is engraved "Southampton Horticultural Society presented by HRH Prince Leopold. 1878.Clearly hallmarked
Category Silver and Silver Overlay
Medium Solid silver with Silver gilt
Distinguishing marks London sterling silver made by Frederick Elkington
Condition Good
Size and dimensions of this item 7 inches tall.Cup diameter 3.5 inches
Date Period 1876
Weight 11.5 ounces
History It was presented to a relative in 1878 by HRH Prince Leopold
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I second that ;~) If you can't provide an image please describe the hall marks. If it's English for this period it should have a stamp for the duty mark ( queen's head) purity mark (lion) city ( crown, anchor,castle... etc) maker and date ( A letter) Lovejoy

Lovely. It has all the correct hallmarks for Frederick 1876. His silver is quite valuable as is Elkington & Company. The price range for their silver is very erratic and I cant find anything online even similar to give a guess. I am not sure if the personal engraving adds or detracts from value either. I guess that depends on who would buy it. I doubt you will ever sell it but for insurance reasons you should have an idea of value. Not knowing any particulars about FE silver and his name attached to it I would suggest you have a pro value this unless Lovejoy can do it (he's a pro). :) There is a place in England who does online valuations for about $35.00 for insurance purposes etc.. They are at: http://www.antiquevaluers.co.uk/old_harlequins/valuationonline.html I would clean it carefully with good quality silver polish and retake some photos and have a very clear up close of the hallmarks. Very nice goblet, good luck !

Small Victorian Sterling trophy cups like this one tend to sell in the $250.00- $350.00 at auction in the current market. They were all the rage during the last quarter of the 19th century, given out at dog shows, flower shows, boat races, etc.... Lovejoy

Submitted by 250chief

I tend to agree with the other evaluations. You might also check with the Hallmark group in London as, unfortunately, a lot of silver pieces are fakes. They do certifications for you and give you some of the history if it's real. (And I believe yours is real!) In this case the inscription will add to the value. The more people you can interest in a piece the higher the price it commands. The inscription adds the Folks who do horticulture AND the Royal Personage collectors both to the mix! The gilding indicates that it was to be used (silver reacts to some drinks!) as it protects the metal. You might also contact the group mentioned, if it still exists, as they would probably have some record of it that might be available to you. 250chief

If it's properly hallmarked it's unlikely it's a fake. Fake pieces are almost an urban legend, it really only happens on high end pieces, there is very little financial point in faking Victorian trophy cups of this size and type. Lovejoy

Actually, I have watched a few documentaries on this where they show how the hall marked items are actually fakes. In one type, they built their own stamps, but normally it's a case of taking one item and turning it into something else. A couple examples showed were a tea pot made from an old hallmarked silver mug and in another a marked silver spoon was 'aged' with piercings and filing. They had a number of others too. The hallmark society in England has a large display of such items. Some of which are not overly high end, but could be. So I wouldn't actually call it a myth, they do exist, but many are very difficult to spot. I agree that it is much less likely in this case though. 250chief

Actually, I have watched a few documentaries on this where they show how the hall marked items are actually fakes. In one type, they built their own stamps, but normally it's a case of taking one item and turning it into something else. A couple examples showed were a tea pot made from an old hallmarked silver mug and in another a marked silver spoon was 'aged' with piercings and filing. They had a number of others too. The hallmark society in England has a large display of such items. Some of which are not overly high end, but could be. So I wouldn't actually call it a myth, they do exist, but many are very difficult to spot. I agree that it is much less likely in this case though. 250chief
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