Vincente Garcia de Paredes OverPainting

By marina_1234, 28 June, 2008
Description

I bought this painting at the estate sale of a 102 year old woman, this painting was her mothers! I asked questions about this - all that was known by the remaining family is this painting is in all likliehood 100 years old or more. It is an original overpainting by the artist (the artist lived mid 1800s to 1906 I believe) - I am still a little unclear of what the term "overpainting" means as I have now heard two different definitions of what that is... It is in wonderful condition, the detail is excellent. I tried to do some research on the artist and found minimal information to my surprise, or perhaps I wasn't looking in the correct places I am not sure. Any information you could provide I would appreciate. My main questions are - I would like to know more about the artist, the style of painting this is, what is an overpainting more precisely, is an overpainting more or less valuable than a regular painting, and what is the value or guestimated value of this painting. Thank you very much in advance.

Sorry about the blurriness of the signature - you should be able to make it out still - for whatever reason the flash was causing me problems when I was trying to photograph that section of the painting.

 

Although I don't have this up for sale, I am still considering it. Although I will admit I do love the painting.

 

Category
Paintings
Medium
Original overpainting - oil I believe
Distinguishing marks
Vincente Garcia de Paredes
Condition
Excellent
Size and dimensions of this item
25 1/2 inches x 35 1/2 inches (from frame edge to frame edge)
Date Period
19th century
Weight
heavy - not sure - it definetely takes two hands to lift and hang this
History
see description below...
eBay Auction Link
Price Paid (If known)
$75
For Sale?
No
Photos

Anonymous (not verified)

16 years 11 months ago

HI MY NAME IS ISABELLA YOUR NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS BUT I HAVE THE SAME PICTURE AND IT BELONGED TO MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER BUT WHATS WEIRD IS THE CLOTHES THE PEOPLE ARE WEARING ARE DIFFERENT COLORS ON MINE THE WOMAN IN THE CENTER IS WEARING A PINK DRESS MINE IS OVERPAINTED AS WELL THE LADY SITTING NEXT TO HER IN MINE IS WEARING YELLOW. ACTUALLY NOW THAT I COMPARE THEN EVERY PERSON IN THE PAINTING HAS A DIFFERENT COLOR ON EVEN THE CHAIR TO THE LEFT IS A DIFFERENT PRINT. I AM ALSO HAVING ALOT OF TROUBLE FINDING ANY INFO BITS AND PIECES HERE AND THERE DO YOU BY ANY CHANCE KNOW THE NAME OF THIS PAINTING THATS WHAT I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR. DID YOURS COME IN THAT FRAME, THE FRAME IS BEAUTIFUL, IF FROM THE SAME ERRA WOULD INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE ART MINE IS AN ORIGINAL GESSO FRAME. DONT GET EXCITED THOUGH YOURS IS THE ONLY OTHER ONE I HAVE SEEN AND I HAVE BEEN SURCHING FOR WEEKS I THOUGHT I HAD A ONE OF A KIND. WE STILL SORT OF DO OUR PICTURES ARE OF THE SAME THING BUT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, SO THE RANGE OF PRICES I HAVE SEEN AT AUCTIONS ARE BETWEEN $800-15,000 DEPENDS ON WHAT THE PAINTING IS OF AND IF ITS A PRINT, PAINT,OR WATER COLOR, THE OIL PAINT ONE SEEMS TO BE GETTING THE MOST WELL MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS [email protected] MATBE WE COULD KEEP IN TOUCH WITH ANY NEW INFO, I HELP YOU YOU HELP ME BUT I WOULD NEED YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS.
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Lovejoy

16 years 11 months ago

Overpainting can mean the final layers of paint, over some type of underpainting, in a system of working in layers. It's also a term to mean later paint added by restorers, or an artist or dealer wishing to "Upgrade" a piece to make it more sale able. As far as your painting goes, nobody can make any assessment or valuation unless they physically examine it.

 

Lovejoy 

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ramblinrec

16 years 11 months ago

To be exact Vicente de Paredes was born in the mid 1857 and died in 1903. He became known as a painter of historical pieces mostly of the French Court and nobility and was also known for his exquisite bookplates.Marina thinks she might have an oil , I believe she has a print that has been overpainted and think Isabella has the same.  Any eveluation would have to be made by physically seeing the piece ,  Maria might want to sell the frame seperately but the frame will add to the value if she sells it with the piece ,  his market has been a bit up and down.  Based on not being able to see these pieces , I can only make a guess.  A tinted heliogravure on paper, 19 1/2" x 30" , Signed/plate with a  Louis XVI style gilt frame sold back in 2000 for 125 dollars ,   Your pieces would have a value of between 150 to 600 dollars in my opinion. hope this helps
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Anonymous (not verified)

15 years ago

I have a very large lithographic print of a painting very similae to this - no title, but would make a beautiful companion piece to this one. Measurememts are: print itself = 29X19 1/2, overall frame = 37 1/2 X 27 1/2 PLUS the gilt ribbon & bow w/ roses that top the gilt frame. The frame is original. Painting denotes a gathering for a musical evening, shows a lovely lady seated in front of a grand piano with mucicians (a harpist, a violinist, a cellist & ?one other) behind her and a pretty large group of ten people apparently applauding her performance. It's a lovely lithograph, but rather dark. The frame itself is ornate and gorgeous. It is in excellent condition.
Signed on the bottom right, and printed:"copyright by Stehli Bros Zurich" on bottom left.

I have found many Vicente Garcia de Paredes on the internet, but so far have not seen this particular one. I would love to know the Title of this painting.

I have no camera, but can have someone take a picture of it for you, if you'd like. Email [email protected]

...and yes I am considering selling it.

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Lucher

10 years ago

I am sorry but i don t speack english onnly spanish or french , vincent de paredes Was my grand father

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