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Translucent tea set

By pierreleromain, 15 September, 2009
Description

The thinness of the cups is incredible: you can see the light through.
7 cups, 5 saucers, one tea pot, one milk jug and one sugar bowl are in perfect condition (no cracks, no chips, no repairs). The extra cup is cracked and two saucers have been repaired.

Category
China
Medium
Eggshell porcelain
Condition
Excellent
History
In the family for at least 80 years
eBay Auction Link
Price Paid (If known)
unknown
For Sale?
No
Photos

Dee 1961

15 years 9 months ago

Re: Translucent tea set

"Dai Nippon" mark. Late 1800's to 1910? My assumption being from 1880 to 1890.

This website has it as 1900 to 1910
http://www.rubylane.com/shops/limmerlaneantiques/item/0081

My bet pre-1900.
http://gotheborg.com/marks/index_jap_marks.htm

This is an example of craftsmanship that we don't see when we walk through Walmart, there is no turning back the clock and having that amount of labor hours into something that is household and yet a piece of art.

It is a beautiful set.

The correct term is "Dai Nippon" and the date can be argued but this is a genuine antique as it is > than 100 years old. "there is no replacement value" I doubt it could be replaced. :)

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pierreleromain

15 years 9 months ago

In reply to Re: Translucent tea set by Dee 1961

Re: Translucent tea set

Dear Dee 161,
Thank you so much for your very useful comment: the two reference websites are most interesting and I will now further study the Dai Nippon history.
Without your help, I wouldn't have found the origin of the set.
Thanks again and kindest regards.
Pierre

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Dee 1961

15 years 9 months ago

In reply to Re: Translucent tea set by pierreleromain

Re: Translucent tea set

Conversely it can be said that the piece comes from the Meiji period (1868-1913)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiji_period

I'm pretty suspicious of pieces of "old Japaneese pieces" that are unmarked. It is fair to say that the Japaneese were sensitive to the origion of the piece geographically, time it was created, and thus who created the piece. It was not really socialy acceptable for the craftsman to signature pieces, but the marks did essentially that.

My assumption that the piece was early Meiji is in the fact that the mark did not accompany an "export mark" which Japan starting to enter into in this period.

The subsequent mark style that "generally" followed was the "Rising sun" Nippon mark and is "typically" credited with Noritake.

Irrespective, these pieces when in good condition and large sets of pieces establish a distinct level of quality and craftsmanship that other potteries and craftsman stand in comparrison and contrast today.

Yes those pieces were delicate, but only a "barbarian" had a difficulty with that fact.

http://www.schoenwald.com/eng/unternehmen/historie.htm?nav=20&l=E

"Schönwald took a different approach. The company only strengthened certain ‘problem areas’ of the tableware (e.g. handles). Not only were the newly created shapes revolutionary, but also the philosophy behind them."

Some of the old schonwald pieces demonstrate the fact that china has become heavier and larger than what it once was. It is interesting to see the size increase of the serving bowls get larger as the US economy elected to "supersize" their servings.

When you look at modern pieces at Walmart today you essentially see "concrete" that is formed with metal dies, conveyor fed to kiln, glazed, sprayed, and refired to finish. In today's economy it would be difficult if not impossible to create what you own.

I enjoy a nice set of china and hope that you use your pieces carefully. I think that they should be used if possible and should be shared with good company.

If some of the pieces have minor damage you might solicit a professional to advise on repair. But really in today's world pieces such as these are rare.

Nice of you to share the piece and demonstrate the transluscene in the photograph.

P.S, I like looking at early glass under a black-light as well.

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