waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch on ebay with starting price of $2,000
By corey Goodwin, 21 February, 2010
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The serial number to this pocket watch is 10099598 the first serial number i am told in this model was 10099501 and the last was 10099625. This waltham standard pocket watch is size 18 with 19 jewels.
Someone else shared the following site & I happened to still have it copied to research my own pocketwatch when I saw your request...so see http://www.nawcc-info.org & & also search other Waltham appraisals, here.
Low production high grade watch that is very desirable to both Waltham collectors and to railroad watch collectors. How are you planning to sell it ... auction or do you have a price in mind? Thanks!
Is it working? Is it engraved with a good design? Both add to value. And, is 14 kt, 18 kt, 22kt, gold plate or gold filled? I could only find one 1892 model but with 22 jewels...sold $450.00.
You can search closed sales on Ebay. Take it to a pawn shop just to see what they'd offer. Ask your local antique dealer if they'd take it on commission & what they think it is worth.
I know this watch is worth way more than 450 this is extremly rare try to find another 19 jewel railroad out there you can't i my grandmother was offered 1,000 at a local antique place good thing she is a smart lady she knows its worth way more. I remember growing up my grandfather showed me the watch a few times and it always ran perfect but has been sitting in a case for years and i think it needs to be oiled because it will run then stop.
Not something that's easy to put a figure on since they rarely come to market.
There's a pocketwatch price guide by Gilbert/Shugart that you can find at Barnes & Noble and other bookstores that lists your watch. I wouldn't count on the price it lists being what you could realistically sell for, but it will give you a start.
Have you considered eBay for the sale? It draws a worldwide audience and will bring serious collectors into competition for your watch.
I would stay VERY far away from pawn shops or general antique dealers.
You have a rare and desirable piece here and will get the best price from a collector that knows exactly what it is and that wants it. But from a general dealer that isn't specifically familiar with it I wouldn't expect anymore than a SMALL fraction of what you'd get from the right set of buyers.
If you haven't used eBay yet then take some time and check it out. I'd say you would want to be listing in the Pocket Watch subcategory of "Jewelry & Watches" since a listing in the wrong category would cut your visibility and that you would also want keywords of "Waltham", "Standard", "Model 1892", and "21 Jewels" in your title.
I'll add that I am a pocketwatch collector with 20 years experience, and if you listed the watch to eBay I would probably plan to be a bidder at a pretty strong price but I wouldn't be surprised to be beaten by someone with a higher interest.
Yes i know this is a very rare watch only a few made this is the 97th made in this model. I looked everywhere and talked to waltham collectors from all over and nobody has this 19 jewel railroad watch.
If I saw this on eBay I'd ask the seller to try for clearer photos of the mechanism and also ask if the watch was running or not. A photo of the back of the case and the markings in the case lids would help too but this is less important to me. Then I'd decide a bid, and no way would I ever tell an eBay seller what number I was planning to bid.
To give you an idea though, from what I see so far and if there is nothing bad that shows in the better pics my bid wouldn't be under $1000. But this is all that I'm going to say about my number here.
- The serial number dates it to about 1900. The "1892" is the model type of the 18 size movement and this number comes from the first Waltham of this model design being made in 1892. Waltham was the earliest major American watch maker and ended up as the second largest production of jeweled pocketwatches (behind only Elgin) and made around 35 million watches between roughly 1850 and 1950.
- The case looks to be gold-filled. This is a sandwich type construction of gold over brass and has a heavier layer than gold-plated, but a very small fraction of the amount of gold in a 14K or 18K solid case. The markings inside the lids of the case will identify it and probably read something like "Warranted 20 Years" which refers to the wear guarantee on the gold-filled finish and then a maker name.
- This is the only movement made by Waltham with a locomotive engraved on the back plate.
- It is nice if your watch is in running order and this does help the value, but it is a desirable enough watch that even if it isn't it would still do very well on eBay.
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
Someone else shared the following site & I happened to still have it copied to research my own pocketwatch when I saw your request...so see http://www.nawcc-info.org & & also search other Waltham appraisals, here.
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
Thank you very much
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You are so welcome. And, since you appear to be a soldier...thank you for your service!
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
Low production high grade watch that is very desirable to both Waltham collectors and to railroad watch collectors. How are you planning to sell it ... auction or do you have a price in mind? Thanks!
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
I wish someone knew what it is worth i know now it is extremely rare not much of this model made.
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
Is it working? Is it engraved with a good design? Both add to value. And, is 14 kt, 18 kt, 22kt, gold plate or gold filled? I could only find one 1892 model but with 22 jewels...sold $450.00.
You can search closed sales on Ebay. Take it to a pawn shop just to see what they'd offer. Ask your local antique dealer if they'd take it on commission & what they think it is worth.
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
I know this watch is worth way more than 450 this is extremly rare try to find another 19 jewel railroad out there you can't i my grandmother was offered 1,000 at a local antique place good thing she is a smart lady she knows its worth way more. I remember growing up my grandfather showed me the watch a few times and it always ran perfect but has been sitting in a case for years and i think it needs to be oiled because it will run then stop.
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
Not something that's easy to put a figure on since they rarely come to market.
There's a pocketwatch price guide by Gilbert/Shugart that you can find at Barnes & Noble and other bookstores that lists your watch. I wouldn't count on the price it lists being what you could realistically sell for, but it will give you a start.
Have you considered eBay for the sale? It draws a worldwide audience and will bring serious collectors into competition for your watch.
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
I would stay VERY far away from pawn shops or general antique dealers.
You have a rare and desirable piece here and will get the best price from a collector that knows exactly what it is and that wants it. But from a general dealer that isn't specifically familiar with it I wouldn't expect anymore than a SMALL fraction of what you'd get from the right set of buyers.
If you haven't used eBay yet then take some time and check it out. I'd say you would want to be listing in the Pocket Watch subcategory of "Jewelry & Watches" since a listing in the wrong category would cut your visibility and that you would also want keywords of "Waltham", "Standard", "Model 1892", and "21 Jewels" in your title.
I'll add that I am a pocketwatch collector with 20 years experience, and if you listed the watch to eBay I would probably plan to be a bidder at a pretty strong price but I wouldn't be surprised to be beaten by someone with a higher interest.
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
You are right...I just thought going to a pawn shop or dealer would give him an idea of the least value...a jumping off point.
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
Yes i know this is a very rare watch only a few made this is the 97th made in this model. I looked everywhere and talked to waltham collectors from all over and nobody has this 19 jewel railroad watch.
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
So with your 20 years experience what would you bid on this?
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
If I saw this on eBay I'd ask the seller to try for clearer photos of the mechanism and also ask if the watch was running or not. A photo of the back of the case and the markings in the case lids would help too but this is less important to me. Then I'd decide a bid, and no way would I ever tell an eBay seller what number I was planning to bid.
To give you an idea though, from what I see so far and if there is nothing bad that shows in the better pics my bid wouldn't be under $1000. But this is all that I'm going to say about my number here.
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put some new pics on here hope they look a little better. you will see in the inside of the case is a little wear in the gold.
Re: waltham standard 19 jewel railroad pocket watch
Some more info on your watch ...
- The serial number dates it to about 1900. The "1892" is the model type of the 18 size movement and this number comes from the first Waltham of this model design being made in 1892. Waltham was the earliest major American watch maker and ended up as the second largest production of jeweled pocketwatches (behind only Elgin) and made around 35 million watches between roughly 1850 and 1950.
- The case looks to be gold-filled. This is a sandwich type construction of gold over brass and has a heavier layer than gold-plated, but a very small fraction of the amount of gold in a 14K or 18K solid case. The markings inside the lids of the case will identify it and probably read something like "Warranted 20 Years" which refers to the wear guarantee on the gold-filled finish and then a maker name.
- This is the only movement made by Waltham with a locomotive engraved on the back plate.
- It is nice if your watch is in running order and this does help the value, but it is a desirable enough watch that even if it isn't it would still do very well on eBay.