Ned can you please take some better pictures of the hallmark the painting and guilding and let me know once updated. Happy to investigate this piece for you.
Kindest Regards ..
Thomas J. Gordyn
Certified Professional Appraiser - AIOA
Proud Member of The American Numismatic Association
Ned ... thanks for the additional pictures. I researched hallmarks both Japanese and Chinese for about 3 hours. This piece is very nice but instantly threw up some flags. One thing lacking is people in the design. The cool part for me are the crane handles. Cranes in Asian history stand for longevity as they were fabled to live for a thousand years. They also were a symbol of luck and fortune. What puzzles me is that such an important symbol is on a piece that doesn;t have people. This leads me to my valuation ...
Now to break it down I'll share a personal experience with you. about a year ago I purchased 2 vases about the size of yours for $40 at auction. Upon closer look there was actually like a shrink wrap on them for decoration (side note with chinese figures) Needless to say I found they had little value. I ended up trading a native friend for a carton of cigarettes. My hopes that they had any value it litterally went up in smoke ...
In researching and looking at your piece I would estimate the following.
This pieces design is not conforming to any specific Asain Style. Its missing some key things as formentioned. Upon further review I believe the vase was made and then after market perhaps decorated elsewhare. The other thing I noted is the lack of balance between one side of the piece and the other side. If you look at the scalloped top you will see what I mean by balance all around. Look at the sides, there is not in both picture nor in color depth.
I estimate this did come from China / Asian late 1970's to early 1980's. And finished aftermarket which would be in keeping with crane handles and no people. At this point in time there were many Asian stores here in Canada and probably the US that sold pieces like this at a great low price. So your piece is Vintage but not Antique. As well the hallmark is something more towards this period of time.
Estimated Value $60 - $120 US pending on market and demand.
I just wanted to note in closing that pieces from this period are what I would call two faced. Depending on which way you faced it the piece would have a totally different look and appeal. The other benefit is that by turning it you can actually impact the visual aspect of the room and environment. The top is balanced so you wouldn;t notice the side faces if placed in a corner.
Thanks for sharing .. It is an interesting piece of history ,,, Please let me know what you think in a reply.
Kindest Regards ..
Thomas J. Gordyn
Certified Professional Appraiser - AIOA
Proud Member of The American Numismatic Association
Thanks for your feedback Ned ... Its appreciated ....sorry it is not worth more. It is a wonderful piece though ... This piece is way nicer then the 2 I traded for some cigarettes : ) .. if its any consequense .. In all honesty something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Im sure pieces like this have sold for much more in past based on percieved value .... Have a nice day ..
Re: chine vase
Ned can you please take some better pictures of the hallmark the painting and guilding and let me know once updated. Happy to investigate this piece for you.
Kindest Regards ..
Thomas J. Gordyn
Certified Professional Appraiser - AIOA
Proud Member of The American Numismatic Association
Re: chine vase
file has been updated thanks for the help.
Re: chine vase
Ned ... thanks for the additional pictures. I researched hallmarks both Japanese and Chinese for about 3 hours. This piece is very nice but instantly threw up some flags. One thing lacking is people in the design. The cool part for me are the crane handles. Cranes in Asian history stand for longevity as they were fabled to live for a thousand years. They also were a symbol of luck and fortune. What puzzles me is that such an important symbol is on a piece that doesn;t have people. This leads me to my valuation ...
Now to break it down I'll share a personal experience with you. about a year ago I purchased 2 vases about the size of yours for $40 at auction. Upon closer look there was actually like a shrink wrap on them for decoration (side note with chinese figures) Needless to say I found they had little value. I ended up trading a native friend for a carton of cigarettes. My hopes that they had any value it litterally went up in smoke ...
In researching and looking at your piece I would estimate the following.
This pieces design is not conforming to any specific Asain Style. Its missing some key things as formentioned. Upon further review I believe the vase was made and then after market perhaps decorated elsewhare. The other thing I noted is the lack of balance between one side of the piece and the other side. If you look at the scalloped top you will see what I mean by balance all around. Look at the sides, there is not in both picture nor in color depth.
I estimate this did come from China / Asian late 1970's to early 1980's. And finished aftermarket which would be in keeping with crane handles and no people. At this point in time there were many Asian stores here in Canada and probably the US that sold pieces like this at a great low price. So your piece is Vintage but not Antique. As well the hallmark is something more towards this period of time.
Estimated Value $60 - $120 US pending on market and demand.
I just wanted to note in closing that pieces from this period are what I would call two faced. Depending on which way you faced it the piece would have a totally different look and appeal. The other benefit is that by turning it you can actually impact the visual aspect of the room and environment. The top is balanced so you wouldn;t notice the side faces if placed in a corner.
Thanks for sharing .. It is an interesting piece of history ,,, Please let me know what you think in a reply.
Kindest Regards ..
Thomas J. Gordyn
Certified Professional Appraiser - AIOA
Proud Member of The American Numismatic Association
Re: chine vase
Thanks for the help, would have liked better news but figure this to be true. Thanks again.
Re: chine vase
Thanks for your feedback Ned ... Its appreciated ....sorry it is not worth more. It is a wonderful piece though ... This piece is way nicer then the 2 I traded for some cigarettes : ) .. if its any consequense .. In all honesty something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Im sure pieces like this have sold for much more in past based on percieved value .... Have a nice day ..
Respectfully ... Thomas.