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Religious Bell with Engraving

By Anonymous (not verified), 2 July, 2007
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On one side is raised engraving with "1878" on top and "SAICNELECIER" under the date and crosses engraved on each side of it. On the other side is raised engraving with "CHIANTEL" on the top and "FONDEUR" under that. The ringer is a separate piece instead of being attached.

I am extremely interested in the value of this item and in the 1786 bell I will be posting later.

Category
General Antiques and Collectibles
Medium
Bronze or Iron
Distinguishing marks
Date and engraving on both sides of bell
Condition
Excellent
Size and dimensions of this item
Approximately 4 inches tall and 4 inches in diameter
Date Period
1878
Weight
12 oz
History
Found in my "junk" box that I found in trash in my childhood days.
eBay Auction Link
For Sale?
No
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GaryTS77 (not verified)

17 years 10 months ago

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2272lori

16 years 5 months ago

In reply to (No subject) by GaryTS77 (not verified)

1878 Bell

Gary, I have a Bell like yours, do u know what its worth,ty my e-mail address is [email protected], thanks again
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250chief

16 years 2 months ago

In reply to 1878 Bell by 2272lori

Re: 1878 Bell

Sorry to disappoint.

But without iron clad proof of history, this bell is only worth what you are willing to pay.

It is a much reproduced and very common swiss animal bell. The foundry marks etc. are correct, but the molds were sold when it closed down and the bells are still being made today from them.

There is a web site (I don't have it on me right now) where you can go and order brand new ones, exactly the same, in a variety of sizes right now.

It has a very interesting history, worth looking at, but the bell itself has little value with out absolute proof of age.

I have 2 of them myself.

Sorry.

Garry

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Anonymous (not verified)

15 years 8 months ago

In reply to Re: 1878 Bell by 250chief

Re: 1878 Bell

I just bought one at an auction here in Norway and paid 18 pounds.

kurt Hansen

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Dee 1961

15 years 8 months ago

In reply to Re: 1878 Bell by 250chief

Re: 1878 Bell

I was posting a few days ago on reproductions made with slip molds, and then there is the ability with cast moldinging and EDM (electrical discharge machining) tooling to create pieces from a 3D rendering of an object such as a cast iron bank, car, etc..

When you see molds or plates transfered to one Co. to another if the piece is genuinely old, as an example McCoy pottery then we date with these changes. In the example of Audubon the plates were "rescued" from a scrap yard.

But beyond original plates and molds being in existence, the reproduction of "old looking items" or dated pieces is increasingly common. Often an old reproduction can mislead some to dating an object, and then there is reproductions of such poor quality that the pieces look distressed or aged.

And finally if the piece came from the set of a movie such as "gone with the wind", and the provenance supports that assertion, old bells can command a high price.

But the generalization that without provenance or careful examination that these items are tricky is certainly true. I see many people makke assertions about pieces as if reproductions did not exist.

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Dee 1961

15 years 8 months ago

In reply to 1878 Bell by 2272lori

Re: 1878 Bell

I have seen some market for larger bells with the original Yoke. I have seen some market for a ship bell if the provenance warranted it. These are nice items that you have. Not an item that will set a new bidding record at an auction, but nice all the same. If you found them, they were a nice find.

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wiganwebs

14 years 1 month ago

In reply to (No subject) by GaryTS77 (not verified)

Re: (No subject)

photo engraving

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jasonla

15 years 5 months ago

Re: Religious Bell with Engraving

The show dirty jobs was showing how some of these bells were made by a company who made them for a lot of churches and has been around nearly 100 years. It's really amazing to see how their made and how long they last in the church of god our church just had new bells installed and they ring each hour

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Anonymous (not verified)

15 years 2 months ago

Re: Religious Bell with Engraving

My dad's cousin mentioned he had an old bell he had been given and wanted information on it, so he brought it to me (internet capabilities).
This is the identical bell, except this particular bell has a crack similar to the Liberty Bell.

here is what I found, alongside of your search, the spelling is SAIGNELEGIER, (G's not C's).

Saignelegier is a small town in NE Switzerland.
Chiantel is the foundry.
value, unknown except for the value of brass.

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